Unbirths + Xehanorts intentions

[Answer Man]

heartless where made by a freak experiment, the darkness of hearts mixed which would have to be the last unbrith and some other stuff, it was in the anseum reports.

[Desert Warrior]

Artificial heartless are experiments.

Real heartless (i.e. Shadow, Neoshadow, Darkball, Darkside, etc.) aren't created the same way artificial heartless are. Nobody knows how real heartless were first created.

[keybladelegacy]

Originally Posted by Answer Man

but there's light in everyone, so there not pure darkness anymore, even ansum wasn't pure darkness.

Maybe their is, we just havent seen it yet.

Originally Posted by Desert Warrior

Artificial heartless are experiments.

No artificial heartless are heartless created by a machine and stamped with the heartless symbol. An actual heartless were the experiments which dont have the heartless symbol.

I explained why. The pure darkness remained. But instead of forming Unbirths again, the darkness instead started consuming hearts and forming heartless.

But heartless are created from the darkness within the heart not outside of it.
Also according to the story it already had consumed hearts way before TAV's time.

Real heartless (i.e. Shadow, Neoshadow, Darkball, Darkside, etc.) aren't created the same way artificial heartless are. Nobody knows how real heartless were first created.

Ya your right real and artificial arent created in the same way but we know how real heartless are created. When the darkness in people's heart take over or released.

[Desert Warrior]

Originally Posted by keybladelegacy

Ya your right real and artificial arent created in the same way but we know how real heartless are created. When the darkness in people's heart take over or released.

I meant the first time they were created. There had to be something special happen to cause the heartless to form in the first place.

[Answer Man]

MX had to some how create them.

[Master Gilgamesh]

hmm.... along with the Xehanort experimenting thing: I've been saying this for yonks, but the unbirths look like some artificial heartless, so here's my theory with heartless and unbirths. Ansem TW probably encountered an unbirth and tried re-create one by using experiments, etc etc.

my theory summarised:
Heartless = darkness of heart.
Unbirth = darkness of soul. probably wrong, but still, just throwin' it out there.

but we should be asking, how did unbirths come into being anyways?

[StarKiller]

Originally Posted by Master Gilgamesh

hmm.... along with the Xehanort experimenting thing: I've been saying this for yonks, but the unbirths look like some artificial heartless, so here's my theory with heartless and unbirths. Ansem TW probably encountered an unbirth and tried re-create one by using experiments, etc etc.

my theory summarised:
Heartless = darkness of heart.
Unbirth = darkness of soul. probably wrong, but still, just throwin' it out there.

but we should be asking, how did unbirths come into being anyways?

Thats what we have been trying to find out.
Its just not enough information on these thingss have been released..

[PaintedDragon]

The soul theory ounds right to me. Hearts and body are already taken, so Unbirths have gotta be made from the soul. I STILL think that when one becomes an Unbirth, it's as if they become "unborn", but maybe their souls get left behind because they were consumed by darkness.

[StarKiller]

Originally Posted by PaintedDragon

The soul theory ounds right to me. Hearts and body are already taken, so Unbirths have gotta be made from the soul. I STILL think that when one becomes an Unbirth, it's as if they become "unborn", but maybe their souls get left behind because they were consumed by darkness.

Yea, the unborn part, is way to simple actually

okay if you go up to a person and say,
What does a heartless mean to you, im pretty sure there answer would be, one WITHOUT a heart, but heartless are hearts filled with darkness

and if you say, well what is a nobody, someone that isn't important, or has No body,
but a nobody, is just a body

so my point is, we can't really go by the defintion, i think its something opposite of being unborn, but not to be born either.

[keybladelegacy]

Ya I pretty much think its the soul.
UnBirth is UnBorn = Undo Born = Death, Which the soul is released.

To simply put it. To Un born someone, death must occur and when death occurs the soul is released.