Some of my Theories

[Dark_Oblivon]

Ok, so to start off. Based on trailers and lines already known, we can kind of tell that Master Xehanort has done something to Ven. What that is, we do not known yet. I believe it has something to do with his heart. In a scene at the Olympus Colosseum, Master Xehanort says, "It seems that your losing it..but you haven't lost it yet." I believe he is either referring to...

A.) His Heart (if he has one)
B.) The ability to lose the keyblade, based on what has happened to him.

If it happens to be B, that could also lead to the comment Ven made on the Islands, saying "Erase me" to someone. Who, we do not know. He could feel that he is useless now, and will only be a burden in the way of Terra and Aqua, so he feels he must be eliminated completely. But, who is Ven in essence? It is possible that the reason he looks similar to Roxas is because when Ven asked to be erased, if it was Terra, then he couldn't do it, as Ven had saved him sometime earlier. So, instead of erasing him, he placed Ven's spirit inside a boy, to preserve him. This boy would be Sora.

However, Ven would have no recollection to anything in his life, and become just a soul in Sora, living on. Eventually, in Hollow Bastion, Sora released his heart, and somehow, Ve's as well. Ven formed, having no idea who or what he was. Neither did Xemnas, which is why his name became Roxas. This could also be a reason why Roxas/Ven could use the Keyblade, because he had the power to wield it in his former life.




Next part of the Theory's - The Dark Soldier

From what we know as of now, the Soldier is seen next to Xehanort most of the time in scenes and clips. We have also seen that the Dark Soldier has formed from Master Xehanort himself. Could this lead to the fact that The Dark Soldier is an Unbirth? Due to lack of information on the subject, I can't tell you. In one of the scnes, Master Xehanort says "Correct my Mistake!" to someone while the Apprentice is nearby. Could this refer to the Apprentice, or someone else.

Next - Terra

Could Malifecent be tricking Terra like she did Riku? In a scene, it shows Malificent outside a thorned castle (Aurora perhaps), with terra behind her. She looks at him, terra looks down, and she laughts. Could Terra be trying to save Ven using her help.

Also, in KH2FM+, when you fight Terra, he says something along the lings of "You weren't the one...Why is it not him?" Could this refer to Ven, as if Terra is saying "Why is not here...Why are you holding the Keyblade?"


Edit -- New Part of Theroy

When Ven is fighting the Dark Apprentice in the 2009 trailer, it cuts to where Master Xehanort says this,

"Those who submit to darkness are not qualified to wield the keyblade. Already, that man is a monster infused with darkness. Use your power to defeat the darkness and correct my mistake!"

I believe this leads to the point that Master Xehanort is talking about Ven. Master X(I'm just going to use X) managed to hurt Ven using darkness. Ven is losing his keyblade, because the darkness is beginning to take over his heart, mind, and soul. I think that Master Xehanort is actually afraid of Ven for what he could become, so he's trying to Terra (whom I believe he says those lines to) and his Apprentice to try and kill Ven before the darkness fully takes over.

This could lead to Ven asking to be erased by someone. Ven knows what he could become based on what has happened, and doesn't want to hurt his friends. Terra, feeling that he can't do that to Ven, do to Maleficent for help. Malifecent, however, tricks Terra and somehow ends up fighting Aqua (who could have possibly been somewhere near Terra at the time). When the trio realize that there is no way to end it, they decide to confront Master X and his apprentice in one final showdown, to see if that will save Ven. Ven is frozen, and Master Xehanort opens a Kingdom Hearts kind of symbol in the sky. I think he is trying to use that power to protect himself even more so than he is, however, he is later killed by the trio.

Terra finally decides to erase Ven, but not permanently. He places the soul of Ven inside a young boy he has seen on Destiny Islands, Sora. And then, just read above for after that.

[Answer Man]

well...it's soild, kinda, it has it's bad parts and good parts, the earse me part, we still dont understand, but if treraa went to malfacnait to erase ven and put his soul in sora then that would make a little bit of sense. but other than that it's good, but like i said, a little bad as well, maybe i'll elaborate later.

[VentusSearcher]

i think all of it is right

[G.SummonerBWM]

To tell you the truth, I can accept this theory. The only problem I have is the apprentice part. HOw can the apprentice be a unbirth when he has a heartless symbol on him?

[Dark_Oblivon]

Originally Posted by summonerbrandon

To tell you the truth, I can accept this theory. The only problem I have is the apprentice part. HOw can the apprentice be a unbirth when he has a heartless symbol on him?

Really? I never noticed the symbol.

[StarKiller]

Lets see if i can be nice this time around....

Originally Posted by Dark_Oblivon

Ok, so to start off. Based on trailers and lines already known, we can kind of tell that Master Xehanort has done something to Ven.

No, we don't know if he has personally did anything to Ven, he could knocked him out or something, he could just be trying to psych him out

What that is, we do not known yet. I believe it has something to do with his heart.

or memories...but heart is good

In a scene at the Olympus Colosseum, Master Xehanort says, "It seems that your losing it..but you haven't lost it yet." I believe he is either referring to...

A.) His Heart (if he has one)

um he has a heart, or he wouldn't be able to wield a keyblade >.>
don't try to say he could be a nobody, nobodies didn't exist then..

B.) The ability to lose the keyblade, based on what has happened to him.

Um noo, how would he lose the ability..

If it happens to be B, that could also lead to the comment Ven made on the Islands, saying "Erase me" to someone. Who, we do not know.

Its obviously aqua,

He could feel that he is useless now, and will only be a burden in the way of Terra and Aqua, so he feels he must be eliminated completely.

maybe

But, who is Ven in essence? It is possible that the reason he looks similar to Roxas is because when Ven asked to be erased, if it was Terra, then he couldn't do it, as Ven had saved him sometime earlier. So, instead of erasing him, he placed Ven's spirit inside a boy, to preserve him. This boy would be Sora.

i can go with this

However, Ven would have no recollection to anything in his life, and become just a soul in Sora, living on. Eventually, in Hollow Bastion, Sora released his heart, and somehow, Ve's as well. Ven formed, having no idea who or what he was. Neither did Xemnas, which is why his name became Roxas.

Wrong
1) Roxas and Ven are two different people, confirmed by nomura
2)Sora only released 2 hearts Kairis and His own. confirmed by nomura
3)He got his named, from being apart of Sora, Roxas= Sora with an X in it mixed around..

This could also be a reason why Roxas/Ven could use the Keyblade, because he had the power to wield it in his former life.

Um no, He is soras nobody thats the reason why he can weild a keyblade, nothing to do with Ven




Next part of the Theory's - The Dark Soldier

From what we know as of now, the Soldier is seen next to Xehanort most of the time in scenes and clips. We have also seen that the Dark Soldier has formed from Master Xehanort himself.

Could this lead to the fact that The Dark Soldier is an Unbirth? Due to lack of information on the subject, I can't tell you.

No, i doubt it, hes an failed experiment, plus i highly doubt an Unbirth can weild a keyblade..

In one of the scnes, Master Xehanort says "Correct my Mistake!" to someone while the Apprentice is nearby. Could this refer to the Apprentice, or someone else.

um Dude the apprentice was right next to xehanort, yea he was talking about it -___-..also he said this man (refering to apprentice..)

Next - Terra

Could Malifecent be tricking Terra like she did Riku? In a scene, it shows Malificent outside a thorned castle (Aurora perhaps), with terra behind her. She looks at him, terra looks down, and she laughts. Could Terra be trying to save Ven using her help.

possibly

Also, in KH2FM+, when you fight Terra, he says something along the lings of "You weren't the one...Why is it not him?" Could this refer to Ven, as if Terra is saying "Why is not here...Why are you holding the Keyblade?"

This battle is non cannon and has nothing to do with the story..nomura confirmed


Edit -- New Part of Theroy

[/QUOTE]When Ven is fighting the Dark Apprentice in the 2009 trailer, it cuts to where Master Xehanort says this,

"Those who submit to darkness are not qualified to wield the keyblade. Already, that man is a monster infused with darkness. Use your power to defeat the darkness and correct my mistake!"[/QUOTE]

talking about Apprentice..wtf are ulooking at...Hi

I believe this leads to the point that Master Xehanort is talking about Ven. Master X(I'm just going to use X) managed to hurt Ven using darkness. Ven is losing his keyblade, because the darkness is beginning to take over his heart, mind, and soul. I think that Master Xehanort is actually afraid of Ven for what he could become, so he's trying to Terra (whom I believe he says those lines to) and his Apprentice to try and kill Ven before the darkness fully takes over.

worthless and wrong :/
He was talking to Ven, not talking ABOUT ven, Mx's apprentice knocked ven down, and thats when MX said "those who submit to darknes.blah blah blah"..so this is way wrong

This could lead to Ven asking to be erased by someone. Ven knows what he could become based on what has happened, and doesn't want to hurt his friends. Terra, feeling that he can't do that to Ven, do to Maleficent for help. Malifecent, however, tricks Terra and somehow ends up fighting Aqua (who could have possibly been somewhere near Terra at the time). When the trio realize that there is no way to end it, they decide to confront Master X and his apprentice in one final showdown, to see if that will save Ven. Ven is frozen, and Master Xehanort opens a Kingdom Hearts kind of symbol in the sky. I think he is trying to use that power to protect himself even more so than he is, however, he is later killed by the trio.

Terra finally decides to erase Ven, but not permanently. He places the soul of Ven inside a young boy he has seen on Destiny Islands, Sora. And then, just read above for after that.

...To many big assumptions..
plus that still doesn't add up to why where all three of them fighting MX in the end, Nomura already said the Secret Trailer at the end of KH2 is pretty much then end of BBS...

[Answer Man]

i was was going to say some of that but i didn't want to write all that like you did. and the secert tralier, i dont usderstand if that's the end they lost very bad, but mickey was there.

[StarKiller]

Originally Posted by Answer Man

i was was going to say some of that but i didn't want to write all that like you did. and the secert tralier, i dont usderstand if that's the end they lost very bad, but mickey was there.

something tells me that they do lose..thats how they all died/got erased..and why Xehanort is stilla round

[Dark_Oblivon]

Alright. I respect your response, but I want to question your ideas.

Therios are about assumptions based on what we know. How can there be to many assumptions?


You can assume something has happened to Ven's heart. Terra eve said "What have you done to his heart?!" I don't think he would say that if Ven was merely Knocked Out



We don't know that Master Xehanort is talking about the Apprentice, so don't go questioning where I'm looking at. Do you have proof that is whehn Master X is saying that he can't wield the keyblade, Do you know that's the same scene as Ven fighting the Dark Apprentice. Terra was talking to Master X at the same spot.


Last i checked, not many game trailers put the end of a game, big spoilers, in the end of the trailer? It might be towards the end, but why would the trailer spoil the end of the game. Really, tell me why?

[StarKiller]

Originally Posted by Dark_Oblivon

Alright. I respect your response, but I want to question your ideas.

my ideas are more lets say accurate then urs.

Therios are about assumptions based on what we know. How can there be to many assumptions?

well thats true, but ur assumptions are pretty wild and wouldn't make sense.

You can assume something has happened to Ven's heart. Terra eve said "What have you done to his heart?!" I don't think he would say that if Ven was merely Knocked Out

Ok first off, Ven wasn't aroudn when terra said that, you misunderstood what i was saying
When Ven got knocked down(not OUT) by MX"s apprentice(TERRA WAS NOT AROUND LET ME REMIND YOU), Is when MX said "Those who submit to darkness are not qualified to wield the keyblade. Already, that man is a monster infused with darkness. Use your power to defeat the darkness and correct my mistake!"..He was talking to Ven, who was laying on the ground..while Mx's apprentice was walking toward Ven,who let me remind you waso n the ground..

When terra said what have you done with his heart. Im sure he was talking about ven

We don't know that Master Xehanort is talking about the Apprentice, so don't go questioning where I'm looking at. Do you have proof that is whehn Master X is saying that he can't wield the keyblade, Do you know that's the same scene as Ven fighting the Dark Apprentice. Terra was talking to Master X at the same spot.

Now let me ask yout his question how do you know its the same spot? The background is different

Last i checked, not many game trailers put the end of a game, big spoilers, in the end of the trailer? It might be towards the end, but why would the trailer spoil the end of the game. Really, tell me why?

First off read a NOmura interview..then come talk to me, because nomura said that is pretty much the ending